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Editor’s Corner: Real Poverty Doesn’t Exist in America

Of course liberals hate it.  And by it, I mean us. And by hate, I mean hate.  

 

Going by what I gather from the feedback, we, at TheCollegeConservative, are all just “well-off privileged white people” (see snapshot below and notice the ethnicity of the poster), “judgmental white girl[s] that should rot in hell,” “the scum of the earth” (this one was emailed directly to me), and my personal favorite, “feminist Nazis” (that one doesn’t even make logical sense).  In fact, much like Breitbart did, I’ve grown to enjoy the senseless ridicule.

Let’s examine.

People like this ignorant moron perpetuate the decline of society by attempting to delegitimize those who think and engage in intellectual discussion.  If, Mr. Lawson, by “well-off, privileged white person” you mean that I live above the U.S. government’s ridiculously generous poverty line, have a roof over my head, have food to eat, and have caucasian ancestors, then yes, I am a well-off privileged white person. And, by the looks of it, so are you. (By the way, the original poster of the article to which he was referring  is Hispanic.)

This problem extends past rhetoric.  His argument’s implication is that the poster and commenters are illegitimate because they have never experienced poverty. As if he has.

There is no poverty in the United States.  Poverty is suffering without a safety net.  Can’t put food on the table?  Get food stamps. Can’t put a roof over your head?  Get subsidized housing. Can’t find a job?  Get unemployment benefits.  Safety net, safety net, safety net.  One would have to put in a serious amount of effort to avoid the government programs and actually live in poverty.

America never sees what poverty really looks like; we just pretend to know what it is.  So I’ll show you.

 

July 2010 – The road leading to a sugar cane village outside of Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.  Workers here work fourteen hour days, six days a week, and make less than $100 per month.  There are no food stamps, there is no subsidized housing, and there are no unemployment benefits.  Break your leg on the job?  Don’t expect worker’s compensation. Complain about pain all you want, but it won’t make a difference.  Here, you work through the pain because if you can’t provide, you die.  That’s poverty.

 

 

July 2010 – A typical house in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic.  Where temperatures often exceed 100 degrees, there is no electricity and no air conditioning.  If you can’t survive the heat, you die. That’s poverty.

 

 

 

 

 

This is also a home – located at a garbage dump outside of San Pedro de Marocis, Dominican Republic.  These people use whatever garbage they can find to build a shelter. This particular group of people had not eaten a good, full, nourishing meal in over two months, nor do they have clean water.  They dig rotten food from the trash piles to stay alive at the landfill, where over 2,000 other people also live.  That’s poverty.

 

 

 

These kids north of Juan Dolio, Dominican Republic are waiting in line to receive a ham and cheese sandwich and a juice box. Some of them don’t own a shirt or pants. This sandwich is the largest amount of food that they will receive in a month’s time.  That’s poverty.

 

 

 

 

June 2008 – A group of school children in Huasimpamba, Ecuador.  Most families cannot afford the $120-a-year education, let alone the school uniform, which costs about $8.  That’s poverty.

 

 

 

 

Food is a need.  Water is a need.  Shelter is a need.

Contraceptives are not a need. Vehicles are not a need. iPhones are not a need.

We, as a nation, are currently in a debate over whether or not the government should provide contraceptives in low-cost healthcare plans. Forget the moral/religious side of the debate.  The fact of the matter is, if you’re too poor to be able to afford contraceptives on your own, you’re likely too poor to take care of a child.  Meaning, essentially, you need to keep your pants on.  Have some self-control, Romeo.

Vehicles are not a need.  Take a bus to work.  Take a train.  Ride a bike.  Walk.  Roll.  Somersault.  Cartwheel.

And yeah, I’ll say it.  If you’re on food stamps, using taxpayer money to buy lobsters, steaks, and birthday cakes, you shouldn’t have a $300 iPhone with a $60+ per month data, talk, and text package.  If you want to talk to your mom or your sister, write them a letter.  It costs 45 cents.

America is lazy and entitled.

We may have an 8.3% unemployment rate, but I know of plenty of McDonalds and Walmart stores that are always hiring.  The people in the pictures above would be ecstatic to make $7.25 an hour at a fast food joint or retail store.  Because they live in real poverty.  Hippies sipping on Starbucks cups and singing Bob Marley don’t.

We, as conservatives, must stop allowing the “well-off” and “99%” rhetoric to be used by the left to divide the country.  The bottom line is, we’re all wealthy in America compared to most of the world.  Accept it, be thankful for it, and be generous with it.

Know what poverty looks like and when someone tries to delegitimize you because you’re well-off, kindly remind them that they are too.

Zachary Freeman, Editor-in-Chief :: @Freeman_Zachary

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  1. Beau Rosario
    Nov 02, 2014 - 08:41 AM

    I’m a very “well-off,” conservative white male, graduated from Temple University, living in North Philadelphia… There is poverty like what you speak of.
    There are people with no access to clean water.
    There are children with no access to education. (I work with some.)
    There are bombed-out-shell houses with kids sleeping on the bare concrete floors. I’ve seen it.

    If you don’t know this, then it’s not because you’re ignorant- it’s because you’re misinformed. Are there people who roll up in Cadillacs to buy steak with food stamps, and abuse the system? Yes. Does this void the possibility of real poverty? No.

    I promise you, it does exist. I drive through it everyday. You’re just wrong about this topic.

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  2. Sharlene Castle
    Feb 28, 2013 - 09:01 PM

    1. Perhaps you should do some research on the difference between absolute and relative poverty before you go writing articles about it.
    2. As someone who has volunteered in rural, impoverished areas of the Dominican Republic and volunteers with the homeless in the US, I can assure you that BOTH are undoubtedly examples of poverty.
    3. Contraceptives are absolutely a need. There’s no quicker, easier way for a young woman to end up in poverty than to have a child before she is ready.
    4. Who do you know that’s on food stamps and is buying lobster dinners as they chat on their $300 iPhone? Hyperbole is not serving you well here, friend.
    5. If you want to make a convincing argument in the future, research and interact with the populations about whom you are writing. Perhaps then you will receive support from more than just your equally ignorant peers.
    6. Quit it with the name calling, would you? It’s not nice.

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  3. Neel
    Feb 28, 2013 - 08:23 PM

    There is some truth to what you say, in that if a poor person had the choice of where he wanted to live, it would be America. Here, the living conditions are significantly better than other countries even for the poorest of people.

    At the same time, I did not like the psychological manipulations that you did, portraying the poor people as into iPhones and birthday cakes and all that. From what I have seen, that is simply not true. But you are welcome to provide credible statistics on the issue. And note that the public transport system in America is really awful (which is why there needs to be investment in infrastructure). What if you live a distant 5 miles away from the closest bus-stop? What if you live a total of 10 miles from the closest bus-stop? I don’t have a car and I use buses here, so I know that using the bus system works only if you are lucky enough to have to commute to nearby places.

    And finally, “No Kid Hungry” is a charity organization which aims to end food problems for ALL kids in America. Right now, they note that 50 millions Americans are living in hunger. There might be a program of food stamps, it does not mean that it is enough. And I do not understand the logic of keeping 16 million kids hungry – they are the future of your country.

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  4. 47 Percenter
    Feb 28, 2013 - 07:43 PM

    Please, please continue to use this “Americans are too entitled” argument. It worked out so well for the Democrats last election and I’m really glad to see that the future of the conservative party hasn’t learned it’s lesson. In case we have forgotten about that debacle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2gvY2wqI7M

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  5. DissidentRage
    Sep 04, 2012 - 03:19 PM

    Poverty doesn’t exist in America? Tell that to the people who live in storm drains, rat motels, back-alleys, tent villages, and run-down factories and schools in cities where industry abandoned them, dying of ailments and diseases for which they can’t afford treatment (and are subsequently denied) and a lack of food. Tell that to the families who make meals by roasting rat over rotisserie, and who sleep on beaten pillows and flattened sheets collected from nearby refuse.

    There are a lot of them. I’ve seen them first-hand, and I’ve been there twice before I hit 25. I have a 130 IQ, demonstrable and applicable knowledge in my field, and I am driven to succeed, but it’s not enough. I can’t get a job based on merit alone, and I don’t have the means to procure the resources and/or capital to start my own business. This is the same for millions, and to deny this is the ultimate in economic delusion.

    In America, if you are born poor, you die poor.

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  6. John
    Jun 22, 2012 - 03:22 AM

    For the record I no longer Identify myself as something that separates from Humanity. I am human.. I am not stuck in conservative way of thought cage or a liberal way of thought cage. How about you divided people. How is that working out for you? Got cognitive dissonance? Does The Hegelian Dialectic sound like gibberish to you? Ever tried thinking for yourself? When you do real self reflection you will find that you are more involved with your EGO than true thought on any subject. When you want to know the truth it is there for you to know. But sometimes the truth hurts and that really is what separates the men from the boys. Rosy colored glasses people have a hard time with anything that they can’t fix with the lies that they have been feeding on all their lives.

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  7. John
    Jun 22, 2012 - 03:15 AM

    Hey Slobyskya Rotchikokov,

    you are currently living in communist country dumb shit. Obama made it obvious for you huh? IThe transition was happening way before Obama, sir.

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  8. John
    Jun 22, 2012 - 03:13 AM

    Yes, the 14 year old kid is right .. People wanted to grow up and work for MCDs! We are free to work slave wages forever The land of Opportunity to waste your time in life serving others who disrespect you. When the that 14 year old spoke up it made feel like the people on Welfare are not lazy But they are WAY SMARTER THAN a McD’s worker! I would much rather be on welfare than live a living hell working at McDonald’s. Thanks Kid you changed my viewpoint for the better.. By the way you have NO FUTURE. Guaranteed!

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  9. John
    Jun 22, 2012 - 03:08 AM

    The writer of this column should visit homeless shelters in this country and the streets where the homeless Barely live and tell them how they are not impoverished at all to their face.. The best thing that will happen when the coming Global Economic collapse comes is people like this author will understand what it is like to starve to death for a few weeks before he realizes how extremely wrong he is. That will be about the time he understands how deceived he was his entire life. Obviously hel has NO clue about fractional reserve currency. has no Clue about how long a fiat currency lasts on average in any given country that adopts it. (250 years, times up punk LOOK IT UP I DARE YOU) Has no clue at what a childish and extreme lask of compassion he has for his fellow human beings. This story was intentionally written to DIVIDE US FURTHER so your story did a great job.. You openly cherry picked your arguments emotionalized and then politicized is a cute trick for a childish social manipulator to do. But if that is your SOUL calling in life go for it! Right? Your success will be obviously an abysmal failure even to you soon enough. That will be your soul talking to you; not your inflated childish and ignorant EGO as your unexamined life and brain are so used to.

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  10. SeparatePeacenik
    Mar 07, 2012 - 02:40 AM

    Just came across this and wonder what you make of Barbara Ehrenreich’s _Nickel and Dimed_. There is definitely poverty in America, though many of us are quite detached from it:

    http://www.amazon.com/Nickel-Dimed-Not-Getting-America/dp/0312626681/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331088000&sr=8-1

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    • Holy crap
      Mar 21, 2012 - 11:04 PM

      Really no point in suggesting it, the author doesn’t read.

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    • Alycia
      Mar 22, 2012 - 01:17 AM

      Great book! And it was written during an economic boom! I would love for her to do a follow up now, as an even older woman trying to make it on minimum wage while doing exhausting work.

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  11. Zach the HSer
    Mar 06, 2012 - 01:58 PM

    Most of you completely missed the point of the article. He was comparing the real poor to our poor.
    Josef, there are plenty of McDonald’s and Walmart’s hiring all around, most people can find a job at a retail store if they want one. I’m 15 and I have had a job since I was 14, don’t tell me you can’t find a job. In Massachusetts there are 120,000 jobs, check out the Boston Globe. When everyone sees jobs all around it is a universal truth.
    I live in Maine, many people I know live off of welfare and food stamps. Christine’s story is definitely true. I back her up 100%. America is lazy and entitled, nice article.

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  12. Slobyskya Rotchikokov
    Mar 06, 2012 - 06:17 AM

    It is amusing to see the leftists stumble over themselves to deny that there is a world of difference in true poverty – experienced in much of the world – and in the levels that democrats refer to as poverty, when a family here uses taxpayer provided cell phones, taxpayer provided medical services, taxpayer provided shelter, taxpayer provided food… the ‘government’ does not give anyone anything at all – it can only take money from the working people and give it to others. Some of us have had the joy of living under communism and have seen the poverty, material poverty and spiritual poverty, from the type of government that Mr. Obama and his supporters want for the USA. It is fun for the elite, but not for the majority living in the shadow.

    AS has been said above, I had to laugh at the sad stories of the ‘occupy’ cretins, wailing about their poverty or their student loans, as they slept in Gore-tex tents, ate food that they did not buy, used laptops and iphones and i pads and spent their time using drugs, stealing, sleeping and having sex, because their lives are so terribly hard! It is only surprising that more of them did not shit their pants and demand that the working people clean them up…. much whining in this country comes from spoiled people who are under the illusion that the world, or life, or society, ‘owes’ them something because they are so special. Only the tru homeless who have been living in boxes or doorways in the USA can talk about being poor. And yes, most of us DO know people, or see them, who are getting all manner of taxayer benefits but refuse to take a job that they consider beneath them.

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    • Zach the HSer
      Mar 06, 2012 - 01:59 PM

      Nice comment, I completely agree.

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  13. Mark Kaczmarek
    Mar 05, 2012 - 08:55 PM

    The causes of poverty are quite simple and straightforward. Generally, individual people or entire nations are poor for one or more of the following reasons: (1) they cannot produce many things highly valued by others; (2) they can produce things valued by others but they are prevented from doing so; or (3) they volunteer to be poor.

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  14. plemmen
    Mar 05, 2012 - 06:39 PM

    The poorest amoung us live in better circumstances that the wealthy at the time of the founding of our nation 236 years ago. They also live longer lives and healthier lives, even the poorest, than the rich in MUCH of the world. Free cell phones are a fact of life for the poor as are food pantries where those who recognize how blessed they are contribute food to those who are not as blessed or who have not yet learned that actions have consequences. To allow the liberal world to deflect, distract and divert from the truth contained in this post is to allow them to define the dialog to their talking points and twisted rhetoric.

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    • Holy crap
      Mar 21, 2012 - 11:04 PM

      You’re right. Because we are now better off than we were 236 years ago, we should immediately stop any attempts at progress or the betterment of humanity.

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  15. Josef
    Mar 05, 2012 - 04:58 PM

    Your style of writing seems to mainly entail unsupported assertion

    1. Reporting one’s anecdotal experience working at walmart and assuming that experience represents larger truths is patently foolish. People who care about accuracy make certain they have enough observations/data to form an educated hypothesis rather than adopting an “i saw it, so it must be a universal truth” type of attitude.

    2. “I know of plenty of McDonalds and Walmart stores that are always hiring.” again with the stupid anecdotes. first off, I don’t even believe you can name many places that are hiring. Secondly, even if you personally can do so, it remains irrefutable that at this moment there are far more unemployed people looking for work than there are unfilled positions, so to claim that the only thing keeping people unemployed is that “America is lazy and entitled” is complete hooey.

    3. “Vehicles are not a need.” They would not be a need if our communities were developed in a sensible and sustainable fashion. Since that is far from the case, anyone equipped with basic observational capacity can observe that there are many places of business which are located too far from “nearby” housing for walking to be a viable transportation method.

    4. “be generous with it” It is this phrase which proves the emptiness of your foolish rhetoric. The entire idea of a social safety net is “being generous with it,” but you make clear you hate that idea with a passion, so to hear you then advocate being generous is so absurd I wondered if your essay was a put-on.

    5. “the U.S. government’s ridiculously generous poverty line”, eh? I challenge you to live on $1 less than it for a year and we’ll see how “ridiculously generous” you think it is then.

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    • Michelle
      Mar 10, 2012 - 05:54 PM

      Word to your whole post. The author seems to have the idea that McDs pays a livable wage or that cell phones/vechiles are not needs. He’s desplaying a sense of entitlment. I challenge him to go live in a low income area where jobs are few between and public transportation is accessiable.

      Frankly, a lot of these “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” folks would benefit by living a year in someone else’s boots.

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  16. WITeacher
    Mar 03, 2012 - 06:40 AM

    Great article. I find that the more arguments are attacked, the better the argument on sites such as these are. I think you are right, we have become so entitled we don’t even understand what poverty is anymore in America. The ‘99%’ live mostly in third world countries and yet people scream for more entitlements here in America, while drinking Starbuck’s coffee and pounding away on their Mac Book Pros. Great work!

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    • Really?
      Mar 05, 2012 - 04:15 AM

      The homeless are of course well known for their macbook pros. A lot nowadays even have macbook airs. They’re perfect, because they have a longer battery life, which is very helpful if you can’t find an outlet near the Starbucks you’re living in front of.

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  17. Luke Montgomery
    Mar 03, 2012 - 05:07 AM

    As always the truth is the hard cold and complex array of facts BETWEEN the two camps. Obviously, there are people in this country who have a hard time making ends meet. Why? The reasons are too complex for us to even analyze in a 45-second sound byte, which is what we’ve become. Many of the reasons are obviously tied to their own choices. That is the most troubling part. However, the “gap” between the rich and poor has never been greater and to make matters even more complex, our status as the world’s reserve currency and sole super-power are effectively a huge tax in our favor on world GDP and we borrow billions on top of that.

    If the American people REALLY paid for what they get instead of having it loaned to us by the Chinese, our economy would be significantly different, and that day is rapidly approaching.

    In conclusion, there are valid points on both sides, but I do not really see how this essay moves us forward…

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  18. DeDe
    Mar 03, 2012 - 12:38 AM

    I do agree that what we sometimes think of as poor is ill-defined in relation to poverty experienced more widespread in other countries. But I’m a bit taken aback by your claim that poverty doesn’t exist at all in this country. There are people in America who literally have no homes to live in, no food to eat, and very little in the way of clothes. Are you saying those people aren’t impoverished? Or are you denying that those people exist?

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  19. Eliz
    Mar 02, 2012 - 06:27 PM

    So I guess you’re in support of keeping the so-called entitlements then, since their existence is the cornerstone of your argument for poverty not existing. Perhaps you should have a personal conversation with the next homeless person you see collecting cans about this idea that poverty doesn’t exist and see what they have to say about it.

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    • Michelle
      Mar 10, 2012 - 12:11 AM

      Word. I love the argument that poverty doesn’t exist because of program A, B, & C, on a site made famous by an article wanting to make these programs even harder to get.

      College Conservative: America doesn’t know real poverty – but we certainly wnat to make so they will!

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    • suck me
      Nov 12, 2012 - 02:12 PM

      The vast majority of homeless people are mentally ill. No amount of Food Stamps, Welfare or Cash Assistance will change the chemicals in their brain. No amount of money thrown at them will make someone who’s lived on the streets say “I think I’ll go get a job and buy a house”. Live it, then talk about it.

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  20. LIzzie
    Mar 02, 2012 - 04:41 PM

    Normally, I wouldn’t comment on a story like this because, let’s be real, most people are stuck in their beliefs and tend to ignore anyone who says otherwise, but I have to say something. I understand the idea that you’re trying to get across here, but the way you went about it is so inaccurate and ignorant of any real facts about poverty.

    First of all, poverty is not defined as “suffering without a safety net.” Poverty, depending on the level (extreme, moderate, relative) can involve anything from not having your basic needs met to facing chronic economic hardship and lacking resources that are required for social mobility. The stories you described about the Dominican Republic are stories of extreme poverty, there is no doubt about that. However, you cannot seriously believe that Americans who have no home, no reliable source of food, and no access to good schools or good jobs aren’t living in at least moderate poverty. Sure, there are some safety net programs put in place, but our safety net programs in the U.S. have proven to be notoriously weak compared to most other countries in the world, including many that are much less wealthy than us. We are arguably the richest country in the world, yet we have a much greater income and standard-of-living gap than most other countries.

    Comparing poverty and income in the U.S. to that in the Dominican Republic is a logical fallacy. Of course workers in the Dominican Republic would be happy to make $7.25 and hour because that would be worth SO much more in their economy. Someone making $7.25/hr working full-time in the U.S. would not make nearly enough to support a family. You seem like a smart enough guy, so I would assume that you realize how little that income will get you in our current economic state. Also, your idea to “walk, roll, somersault” to work is a cute idea, but you fail to realize that many of the poor live in rural areas, which means there is no way they could take public transportation, and absolutely no way they could walk to their place of employment and expect to get there efficiently enough to work normal hours. Are you seriously suggesting you’d be willing to walk 2-3 hours to work everyday if you didn’t (presumably) have parents with money, or a high enough paying job to pay for your car?

    Finally, I agree with you on one point – If you’re too poor to support yourself, you’re also too poor to take care of a child. However, I would argue that that is all the more reason why contraceptives should be easily accessible. You can’t just tell people to “keep it in their pants.” That is completely ignorant. Sex has been going on since the beginning of time and people aren’t just going to stop doing something that is a natural part of existence just because they are not as well-off as you. People living in poverty should have access to contraceptives simply to help stop the cycle of more children being born into poverty. I’m not even going to start with your iPhone argument, because when have you ever seen someone below the poverty line with an iPhone? I can’t even afford an iPhone and I’m an upper-middle class student. Also, sending a 45 cent letter is not going to cut it when it comes to getting in touch with potential employers and other important individuals in this fast-paced environment that we currently live in.

    I said more than I originally planned and I promise I tried not to sound preachy, but maybe this will make you think a bit more about the accusations you are making and encourage you to do more research before you write another article like this one. Since you are an editor, I would hope that you check facts and try to write your stories as accurately as possible. If you choose to ignore this post all together, that’s fine. Perhaps someone else will stumble upon it and gain a new perspective.

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    • suck me
      Nov 12, 2012 - 02:10 PM

      Okay, let’s define “American Poverty”. Can’t get the latest iPhone, unless you get on Food Stamps to free up what would have been your grocery money. You were a complete windbag, and I summed it up in less than five sentences.

      There is no poverty in America. It’s merely perception for the ignorant masses who drive Tauruses and pine over some other guy’s Camaro. My mother grew up on a dirt floor in Appalachia and didn’t know when her next meal was going to be. The days of that happening in this country are LONG gone, and even then, it didn’t stop her from succeeding in this country. My parents now live in an oceanfront condo and drive a Viper. No luck. No handouts. Just hard work. In your America, they’d both still be stuck in the coal mines.

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  21. Erin Shumaker
    Mar 02, 2012 - 04:17 PM

    You bring up an excellent point – do we honestly know what poverty is? When the poorest in America are better off than many of the middle class in Europe, we don’t really know what true poverty is. I have seen situations similar to these photos (both in Mexico and Poland), and it is heartbreaking. Those who live below the poverty line in America don’t know how well off they are. If only they knew…

    I love reading y’alls stuff! Keep on writing; keep fighting the good fight!

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    • Alycia
      Mar 22, 2012 - 01:07 AM

      “When the poorest in America are better off than many of the middle class in Europe,”

      Erin, where do you live? Come visit me in West Philadelphia and show me the poor people who are better off than many of the middle class in Europe. We can go to a neighborhood of African immigrants who cannot believe they are living in America, the area is that bad. Or go visit my friends in Eastern Kentucky and come back with a report on how well those folks are living below the poverty level. And I dare you to tell them to walk 30 miles to work at Wal-Mart while you are there.

      These comments are disgusting, but more they are sad. How can Americans treat their fellow Americans like this? God help all of you because if you ever need real help, the hippy dippy liberals who are the ones actually helping people should have the right to turn you away.

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      • Dexter's Lab
        Mar 24, 2012 - 05:52 PM

        Do you know Will Smith?

      • suck me
        Nov 12, 2012 - 02:03 PM

        Philly is a shithole. It’s a shithole because the ignorant populace keeps electing crooked politicians. Same old story. Detroit, Cleveland, etc. Whine about the conditions, when the conditions are all YOUR fault. If you ever forgo the rims on your car and gold teeth, you may actually travel to Europe and see their Middle Class, does indeed, live the same lifestyle as American “poor”. Now, go occupy Wall Street because jobs like Walmart are beneath you. Sad.

    • kenny
      Apr 29, 2012 - 06:00 AM

      “Better off than Middle Class in Europe”

      LOL! Oh man… sorry, you are an IDIOT. *TOTALLY* not TRUE>

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      • Keydren
        Jul 03, 2012 - 01:37 AM

        A little ratinolatiy lifts the quality of the debate here. Thanks for contributing!

      • suck me
        Nov 12, 2012 - 02:05 PM

        Article is dead on. Look at all the entitlement babies that came in here to deny simple truth. There’s no such thing as poverty in America. If you have a roof over your head and food on the table, you don’t know what poor is. Pathetic how far we have fallen since FDR started this nonsense.

  22. Paige Roper Norman
    Mar 02, 2012 - 04:17 PM

    It’s too bad you’re young enough (old enough) to be my son. I think I love you. :)

    In all seriousness, I wish that people would understand that to have an email account where you can vent your radical hate against people who are tired of paying for everyone else DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE POOR.

    LOVE THIS POST!

    Keep up the good work!

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  23. Jim
    Mar 02, 2012 - 03:02 PM

    Do you think it’s fair to compare the United States to these countries? I mean sure, we should of a sense of proportion…but we should judge ourselves by higher standards, not by the standards of the third world.

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    • suck me
      Nov 12, 2012 - 02:00 PM

      Do you think it’s fair to call someone who doesn’t have the latest iPhone a poverty statistics?

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  24. Lacey
    Mar 02, 2012 - 08:52 AM

    i so really love you for this…
    i think it’s just as much of a reminder to Christian conservatives as it is to liberals, though. i think it’s super easy for us to forget how truly blessed we are and how entitled we aren’t. not that you were insinuating that only liberals take advantage of blessings, i know you weren’t, but just a reminder.
    keep it up. i read your articles all the time, but this one felt worthy of a comment.

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    • Judi
      Mar 03, 2012 - 01:49 AM

      I assume from your pious,, self righteous screed………you think a lot of yourself. Have you ever…as the Christian you claim to be…ever put yourself in another’s shoes? And I am NOT talking about world poverty….I’m speaking of the conditions of a lot of people in THIS country…whether YOU want to admit it or NOT.

      You use the same RW talking points that someone with very little intellect, someone with very little comprehension skills would put forth as they require little or no deep thought processes. Saying that people on welfare all have cell phones, or can supprt a family on minimum wage…which the GOP feels is too generous, but the way. MOST people on food stamps only buy the essentials…stop using all your Fox lies to make your point. A lot od people who were forced to ” retire ” would LOVE to work…..McDonald!s is NOT hiring them, or Lowes, or Target……..they are taking that socialism thing called SS because they have no choice.

      Ào go ahead blather on about poverty, birth control and sexual urges…….you don’t have a clue. Live a few more years….I would LOVE to see your know it all writings then.

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      • Mick
        Mar 04, 2012 - 10:50 PM

        What was missing from this young and shallow right wingers piece was any mention of poverty in his own nation, Louisiana’s ninth ward. Righties never discuss the ninth ward or South Central Los Angeles because their arguments go down the toilet with the rest of there views. On the same note, this where right wingers are exposed on the abortion issue. As a Pro Life Catholic, I maintain, right wingers like this little dweeb only care about life before birth. Here is my proof: The argument the phony pro lifer make is that a child is innocent in the womb, I agree 100% with that. But, guess what, that same child is also innocent once he/she is born into an environment like the ninth ward in in South Central Los Angeles. The phony pro lifer’s argument shifts from the innocent child to the child that needs to pull themselves up by their boot straps! What boot straps??

      • Janice
        Mar 05, 2012 - 08:17 AM

        And who runs these poverty stricken areas you refer to? Left wing Democrats! No wonder they are such a mess!

      • Michelle
        Mar 14, 2012 - 02:06 AM

        Yes, its not like there was a natural disastor that happened in LA that destoryed its economy or anything. Just silly Dems, LOLZ!

      • Christine
        Mar 05, 2012 - 01:10 AM

        So Judi, tell us how much time YOU have spent helping the impoverished, and living among them? What are YOUR personal experiences in helping the poor among us? You want to rant about RW talking points, well I am not seeing anything different in your musings. Sounds like something straight from the anti-RW dictionary. We are incredibly fortunate in this country and the majority of us do not know what it truly means to be poor monetarily. We as a nation are poor in spirit, for sure, but we as a nation have lost our sense of community and helping our neighbors. We do have safety nets in place, and looking to the government to take care of us is NOT the answer.

      • Edwin A Groves
        Mar 05, 2012 - 04:21 AM

        There is plenty of opportinity to work in this country. I see people living off the government with cars better than mine and houses full of big screen TV’s and yes they all have cell phones. If you have the slightess ambition to work…you can find a job and take care of a family. People have become too lazy and demand unmerited compensation from the government. I have worked in public service for over 23 years and I KNOW people can support themselves if they wanted to. Maybe you should get a few more years under your belt or come out to the real world with me and see how the people waste the governments money. Yes, there are the very few who need help….and there is more than ample opportunities for them but as a country we are blessed and are not hurting. Some people have no clue but I see it everyday…so maybe you should wake up and smell the coffee, we cater too much to those who SUPPOSEDLY need help.

      • George
        Mar 05, 2012 - 07:00 PM

        BULL!!! I live in a town that has been run by Liberals for many years and the is MUCH of the so-called “Poverty in America”. I myself have lived most of my life in this “poverty”. My wife and I do whatever we can to make ends meet without govt “assistance”, but I know and have many friends who do recieve food stamps and other “entitlements, and ALL of them have cell-phones. Most of them use their food-stamps to buy steak and pre-packaged foods (and not the cheap bottom-round sirloin steak that my family enjoys, but Porterhouse and Filet-Mignon type). Most of them have nicer clothes and cars than I do. And many of them actually sell their food stamps to other people at a discount and use that as “extra-money” to buy drugs or other unnecessary things. Sure there is a small number of people in the US who actually can’t afford to eat or live, but most of them do so because of their own actions and choices, not because the opportunity and resources don’t exists to live otherwise! Nice try though.

      • Holy crap
        Mar 21, 2012 - 10:57 PM

        Holy shit, George, I can’t believe people like you ACTUALLY exist. I can’t believe there are people that actually believe the absurd oversweeping notion that “most of them have/buy nicer food/clothes/etc than my family” or that “..most of them do so because of their own actions and choices.” What are you talking about? In what way are you in any way qualified to make that assumption. To me, and to most level-headed moderates, any sentences beginning with “most of them” is ignorant, generalizing, bigoted crap. You have NEVER experienced poverty that America’s truly impoverished have experienced. If you had, you wouldn’t be spouting ignorant nonsense. In a lot of parts of Appalachia, people don’t have running water. “Apply for assistance,” you say. “Get a job.” How will they get there? Will you give them a car? Will you lend them your phone? What boot straps? You are delusional, privileged, ignorant trash.

      • suck me
        Nov 12, 2012 - 01:59 PM

        Article is spot on. Americans don’t know what poverty is. Period. You can resort to ad hominem attacks all day, but it doesn’t change the simple fact of his article. If you don’t see people rolling up in Cadillacs to buy steak with food stamps, your head is buried in the sand. The modern American is a pussy who wouldn’t last 10 minutes in the Old West. Soft and entitled. Whiny and annoying. Pathetic, really.

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